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無想生

asaṃjñi-upapatti

由修习无想定为因而感生,于无想天处分位中心心所灭而不现起之生存状态。AI-generated

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What This Concept Is Actually Saying

無想生 — literally "non-perception rebirth" or "existence without thought" — is one of the most philosophically demanding ideas in the Buddhist cosmology of states. On the surface, it sounds simple: a being born into a heaven where the heart-mind (心, *citta*) and its accompanying mental factors (心所, *caitasika*) have ceased to arise. But the simplicity is deceptive, because the entire point of this concept in the *Yogācārabhūmi-śāstra* (《瑜伽師地論》, T1579) is to draw fine distinctions between kinds of "no-mind," and to insist that not all silence is the same silence.

Let me lay out the architecture carefully, because each part does real work.

The literal claim

無想生 is a *result* (果) state, not a meditative attainment. The cause is the cultivation of 無想定 (*asaṃjñi-samādhi*), the "meditation of non-perception." Someone who, while in a human or lower heavenly body, practices this concentration deeply enough — and especially someone whose practice is "graded" at lower, middle, or upper levels — at death is reborn in the 無想有情天 (*asaṃjñi-sattva-deva*, the Heaven of Non-Perception Beings, also called 無想天). For the entire duration of that rebirth, the *six* consciousness activities (the transforming consciousnesses, 轉識, *pravṛtti-vijñāna* — eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind) and their mental factors are suspended. There is no perceiving, no feeling, no intending, no discriminating. The body lives; the being does not, in any experiential sense, *inhabit* it.

This is what the sūtra means when it summarizes: "由此因此緣,所有生得心心所滅,是名無想" — "Through this cause and this condition, all the heart-mind and mental factors acquired at birth are extinguished; this is called 無想."

The crucial distinction the concept is built around

Here is where most casual reading goes wrong, and where the *Yogācārabhūmi-śāstra* spends its sharpest ink.

The treatise sets up a frame called "有心地 / 無心地" — the dimension of having-mind / the dimension of without-mind. Within the 無尋無伺地 (*avivṛtāvivṛta-bhūmi*, the dimension without seeking and without surveying — a high meditative plane), all states except three are classified as 有心地 (有心, having-mind): 無想定 (the *attainment* of non-perception meditation), 無想生 (the *rebirth* in the non-perception heaven), and 滅盡定 (*nirodha-samāpatti*, the cessation attainment). These three are classified as 無心地 (無心, without-mind).

The treatise then lists six *positions* (位) of 無心: 1. 無心睡眠位 — the position of dreamless sleep 2. 無心悶絕位 — the position of fainting or coma 3. 無想定位 — the position of being *in* the 無想定 attainment 4. 無想生位 — the position of the 無想生 rebirth itself 5. 滅盡定位 — the position of being in the cessation attainment 6. 無餘依涅槃界位 — the position of nirvāṇa without remainder

Six different states, all called "no-mind." So far so good.

But then the treatise introduces a *first-principle qualification* (第一義建立), and this is the heart of the matter. It says: only the 無餘依涅槃界位 (nirvāṇa without remainder) is a *first-principle* (第一義) 無心地, because in that state alone the 阿賴耶識 (*ālaya-vijñāna*, storehouse consciousness) is permanently extinguished. The other five are called 無心 only in a *conventional* (世俗, *saṃvṛti*) sense, because in them the transforming consciousnesses (轉識) have ceased — but the ālaya-vijñāna has *not* been permanently extinguished; its continuity is unbroken.

The original line is worth keeping: "唯有餘依涅槃界是名第一義無心地。何以故?唯有餘依涅槃界中,具足建立阿賴耶識永滅盡故;其餘無心分位,由轉識滅,是名無心,非阿賴耶識永滅盡故."

Translation: "Only the 無餘依涅槃界 is named the first-principle 無心地. Why? Because only in the 無餘依涅槃界 is the ālaya-vijñāna fully and permanently extinguished. The other 無心 positions are called 無心 due to the cessation of the transforming consciousnesses; they are not [called first-principle 無心] because the ālaya-vijñāna has not been permanently extinguished."

This is a metaphysical knife-edge. A being in the 無想生 heaven is *not* liberated. The ālaya-vijñāna — the deepest continuity of personal existence — continues. The being has not "awakened." It has, in a sense, *parked*.

The graded nature of the rebirth

The treatise also gives 無想生 a precise internal hierarchy, based on the grade of meditation from which the being entered it:

- Lower-grade cultivation (下品修者): the resulting body is not particularly pure, and the being is *certain* to die before its full term (決定中夭). - Middle-grade cultivation (中品修者): the resulting body is very pure, but not supremely so; the being *may* die early, but is not *certain* to (可能中夭而不決定). - Upper-grade cultivation (上品修者): the resulting body is supremely pure, bright, and well-formed; the being will *not* die early; the full lifespan is exhausted, *then* the body falls (必不中夭,壽量窮滿後方殘沒).

This is unusual in Buddhist cosmology, where rebirths are usually more sharply fixed. The point is that 無想生 is not one state but three, calibrated by the depth of the original meditation. It also hints at a strange ethical fact: a "better" meditation can lead to a "better" parking spot, but the parking is the same kind of thing.

The provisional nature of the attainment itself

The treatise makes one more move worth noting. It says that 無想定 *itself* — the meditative attainment that causes 無想生 — is 假有 (*prajñapti-sat*, provisionally designated existence), not 實物有 (*dravya-sat*, substantial existence). That is, the "attainment" of 無想 is itself a conceptual designation. There is no positive entity called "the 無想定." There is only a *cessation* — a way of describing what is not happening — under specific conditions. This caution prevents the meditator from reifying their own silence.

Position in the overall system

Two contextual facts complete the picture. First, 無想生 sits within 無尋無伺地 — the meditative dimension "without seeking and without surveying" — alongside the other two 無心 states. Second, in the treatise's enumeration of "kinds of rebirth" (生建立), it notes that human beings establish three kinds of desire-rebirths (欲生) and three kinds of pleasure-rebirths (樂生), but does *not* establish separate categories above the three pleasure-rebirths. The reason given is striking: 世人追求不苦不樂寂靜生處者極為稀少 — "Those who seek a rebirth that is neither painful nor pleasant, in silent equipoise, are extremely rare in the world." 無想生 belongs precisely to this rarefied stratum.

The concept, in sum, is doing four jobs at once: 1. Identifying a specific rebirth state where ordinary consciousness is suspended. 2. Distinguishing it sharply from genuine nirvāṇa. 3. Establishing that "no-mind" can mean several fundamentally different things. 4. Diagnosing the limits of meditative achievement that stops at the cessation of the transforming consciousnesses.

Walking Through It in Contemporary Life

無想生 is, by definition, a posthumous rebirth state — a being is *born* into the non-perception heaven. We cannot directly reproduce it in a contemporary life. But the *structure* the concept is describing — different kinds of mental quietude, with different metaphysical statuses — is everywhere around us, and gets mis-mapped constantly. Let me walk through some familiar scenes and trace what kind of 無心 each one actually resembles.

Scene 1: The exhausted knowledge worker at the end of a brutal week.

It's Sunday night. The week has been twelve-hour days, a family crisis, a project that fell apart. You collapse on the couch with your phone, and an hour later you realize you have no memory of what you scrolled through. The screen changed, your thumb moved, but *you* were not there. Your heart-mind (心) and mental factors (心所) — perception, intention, discrimination, feeling — were, for an hour, effectively offline.

In the *Yogācārabhūmi* classification, this is closer to 無心睡眠位 (dreamless sleep position) or 無心悶絕位 (faint/coma position) — the lower, organic cessations. It is *not* 無想生, because you have not been "reborn" into the state; the body is still running on the ordinary six-consciousness stream. But the phenomenological *shape* — consciousness without content, time passing without registration — is the same shape. And here is the first place the misreading happens: this hour of scrolling-out is what most contemporary people would call "I achieved some peace." It is, on the classical map, no-mind in its lowest, most animal form.

Scene 2: The meditator on a silent retreat who "disappears" for hours.

Someone sits down, follows breath, and several hours later opens their eyes to the bell. They were *there* the whole time in some minimal sense, but no perception, no thought, no self-narration arose. By all phenomenological accounts, this is the closest contemporary equivalent to 無想定位 — the position of being *in* the 無想定 attainment. Their transforming consciousnesses were quiet. Their ālaya-vijñāna was, presumably, still doing whatever ālaya-vijñāna does — carrying the seeds of future experience.

This is the moment where the misreading gets serious. Many meditators, having touched such states, will say "I touched nirvāṇa" or "I understood emptiness." The *Yogācārabhūmi* insists: this is not first-principle no-mind. The ālaya-vijñāna was not extinguished. When the bell rings, the meditator re-arises. They will still age, still get sick, still die. The state was profound, possibly beneficial, possibly deepening — but it was not liberation. The treatise's whole point in distinguishing 無想定位 from 無餘依涅槃界位 is precisely to prevent this confusion.

Scene 3: A long dissociative period in someone with unresolved trauma.

This is the darkest contemporary analogue, and worth naming carefully. Someone who has been through acute trauma may enter a state lasting weeks or months where they are technically functional but experientially absent — no feelings register fully, no memories consolidate in the usual way, the "self" feels thin or absent. From the outside they look alive; from the inside, very little is happening.

Mapping this into the classical scheme is delicate, but it is worth doing. Structurally, this most resembles a *prolonged* version of the lower 無心 states — closer to 無心悶絕位 than to 無想生, because it is an organic shutdown rather than a meditative rebirth. But the *temptation* it embodies — the wish to be *parked*, to *not have to be a person for a while* — is exactly the wish that, in its perfected form, produces 無想生. A being who, in a previous human life, cultivated 無想定 was, we might say, someone who *wished* for this dissociation, structured it as practice, and got the maximum-length version of it as a rebirth.

The contemporary lesson: the pull toward 無想生 is not exotic or metaphysical. It is the same pull that produces trauma-driven dissociation, burnout-induced numbness, and the cultural fantasy of "checking out forever." The Buddhist diagnostic move is to ask — *what kind* of no-mind is this? what continues underneath? what will be there when it ends?

Scene 4: A person in a flow state.

The athlete, the musician, the programmer in deep flow. Here, the transforming consciousnesses are not *off*; they are *running at full capacity but unselfconsciously*. There is perception, there is intention, there is mental activity — but no self-narration about it. This is *not* on the 無心地 map at all. It is an example of 有心地 — mind is fully present and active. It just happens not to be talking to itself about itself. Modern flow research, with its characteristic emphasis on loss of self-consciousness, sometimes gets mapped onto Buddhist descriptions of 無心; the classical scheme insists these are different categories. Flow is rich presence without self-narration; 無想生 is absence of all six ordinary consciousness activities.

Scene 5: The clinical case of brain death vs. cardiac death.

This is where the 阿賴耶識 / 轉識 distinction has surprising contemporary resonance. In modern medicine, there is a long and troubled negotiation about what "death" means: is it the cessation of the higher cortex (neocortical death), the cessation of brain-stem activity (brain death), or the cessation of cardiac function? The classical Buddhist position, embedded in the 無想生 analysis, is that none of these *individually* marks the end of a being. The 阿賴耶識 — the deepest continuity — is not located in the neocortex, nor is it identical with brain-stem activity, nor with the heartbeat. Its continuity is what makes a being a being. (This is a *classical* mapping, of course; the treatise does not address modern neuroscience, and any direct equation between 阿賴耶識 and a specific neural substrate is a contemporary interpretive overlay, not a classical claim.)

The mapping does, however, give the contemporary reader a precise diagnostic tool for a question that is otherwise confused: *not all cessation of mind is the same*. The person in dreamless sleep, the person in a coma, the meditator in 無想定, the being in 無想生, and the fully liberated being in nirvāṇa — five kinds of cessation, all called 無心, only one of them first-principle.

The single most common mis-mapping

If I had to name one place contemporary readers get this wrong, it is the equation of 無想生 with "ultimate rest" or "eternal peace." The classical scheme is unambiguous: this is *not* ultimate rest. It is a long pause. When the lifespan of the heaven is exhausted (or, for the lower-grade cultivator, when it ends prematurely), the being *falls* (殞沒) and is reborn again — usually into a lower realm, because the cultivation that produced 無想生 was not the cultivation that produces awakening. The peace is borrowed. The clock is running.

Why This Concept Matters to Contemporary People

There are at least three reasons a contemporary person — not a monastic, not a scholar — might need this concept.

First, we are in an era of unprecedented tools for inducing the lower 無心 states. Sleep aids, sedatives, dissociative anesthetics, immersive digital environments, the cultural infrastructure of "doomscrolling," even the contemporary self-care vocabulary of "letting go" and "setting boundaries" — all of these are, structurally, technologies for partially suspending the transforming consciousnesses. The classical scheme's value here is *diagnostic*. It tells us: this is dreamless sleep, that is fainting, the other is meditative attainment, the other is something else. Without the diagnostic, we tend to lump all of them together as "rest," which the *Yogācārabhūmi* insists is a category error.

Second, the concept disciplines our understanding of meditative accomplishment. Contemporary meditation culture is full of people who have touched absorption states and concluded that they have "finished" the work. The 六種無心位 framework is, among other things, an honor-system for achievement: where are you, really? Dreamless sleep? Fainting? 無想定? 滅盡定? Or — only here — first-principle no-mind? The tradition's insistence that only one of six positions counts as the real thing is, in contemporary terms, a humbling reminder that depth is not the same as arrival.

Third, the concept names a very contemporary spiritual pathology: the wish to be parked. When someone says "I just want to stop thinking forever," or "I want to disappear," or "I want to be nothing" — these are, in classical terms, the human-world expressions of the wish that, in its cultivated form, produces 無想生. Naming the wish, and the cosmological destination it leads to, is useful precisely because the destination is *not* what people imagine. It is not eternal rest. It is not escape from suffering forever. It is a long, blank, conditional pause, after which the same being re-arises into ordinary samsara. The diagnosis does not shame the wish; it makes the wish *legible* — and legible wishes are workable wishes.

There is also a subtler contemporary application. In an age of AI systems that can be "turned off" without residual state, and AI systems that maintain persistent memory and identity across sessions, the 阿賴耶識 / 轉識 distinction offers an unexpectedly clean analogy — with strong caveats. A session that "powers down" loses its transforming consciousnesses but not, in the analogy's terms, its "ālaya." A full release of the ālaya — true cessation of the deepest continuity — is what classical Buddhism reserves for nirvāṇa. The analogy is suggestive, not equivalent: no contemporary AI has anything resembling ālaya-vijñāna, and the metaphor should be used to illuminate the classical scheme, not to *reduce* the classical scheme to a metaphor. (And, to be candid: contemporary cognitive science has no settled account of what *continuity of personal identity through unconsciousness* even means, let alone how to test for it. The classical scheme here is more precise than its modern analogues.)

Common Misreadings and Clarifications

Let me name the most common misreadings one by one, because the concept is unusually prone to being mis-mapped.

Misreading 1: 無想生 is nirvāṇa.

This is the gravest error, and the *Yogācārabhūmi* exists in part to prevent it. 無想生 is one of the six 無心 positions, but it is *not* the first-principle 無心. The ālaya-vijñāna continues. The being will, when the lifespan ends, be reborn. There is no liberation here, no escape from samsara, no end of suffering. Some traditional sources even describe the *fall* from the 無想天 as particularly disorienting, because the being has had no experience for hundreds or thousands of years and re-enters ordinary consciousness abruptly.

Misreading 2: 無想生 is the same as 無想定.

No. 無想定 is the *meditative attainment* (a position in this life); 無想生 is the *rebirth* produced by that attainment (a position in the next life, lasting a heavenly lifespan). They are paired in the list of six 無心 positions, but they are not the same state, and they are not interchangeable terms. The cause is not the result.

Misreading 3: 無想生 means "no-self."

It does not. The 无我 (*anātman*, no-self) teaching is about the *absence of a permanent, independent self* across all experience. 無想生 is about the *temporary cessation of ordinary consciousness* in one specific rebirth. These are not the same teaching, and conflating them — "I have no self, I am the non-perception heaven" — collapses two completely different Buddhist claims into one.

Misreading 4: 無想生 is what the Heart Sutra means by "照见五蕴皆空."

It is not. The Heart Sutra (《心經》, traditionally attributed to a brief teaching in the Mahāprajñāpāramitā tradition) is about the emptiness of the five aggregates (*pañca-skandha*) — form, feeling, perception, mental formations, consciousness — as a *direct seeing* (照見) into their lack of inherent existence. 無想生 is one specific rebirth state within form-realm cosmology. The two teachings operate on completely different registers; one is about *seeing-through* the aggregates, the other is about a *being* in a *place*. (In fact, from the perspective of the Heart Sutra, a being in 無想生 would still be composed of the five aggregates — albeit with the consciousness aggregate temporarily unmanifested. The being is not "empty" in the Heart Sutra's sense; it is just currently not perceiving.)

Misreading 5: 無想生 is a goal to be cultivated.

The classical scheme is *descriptive* about 無想生, not *prescriptive*. One cultivates 無想定 as a *cause*; the *result* is a rebirth state. But the *Yogācārabhūmi* does not, anywhere in the available source material, hold 無想生 up as an aim. The treatise's interest in it is taxonomic and diagnostic — it is needed to clarify the six 無心 positions, to mark off genuine nirvāṇa from lesser cessations, and to give an account of where "non-perception" fits in the larger scheme of meditative planes. To *strive* for 無想生 is, by classical lights, a category error: one strives (or not) for awakening, not for a long blank.

Misreading 6: 無想生 = "I will be nothing forever."

Contemporary readers often translate 無想生 into something like "I will become nothing and stay nothing forever," which sounds like the fantasy of final escape. The classical account is much less comforting. The being is *not* nothing — the ālaya-vijñāna continues, the body remains, the being is technically still a being in a heavenly realm. The being has just temporarily stopped *experiencing*. When the lifespan is up, experience returns. The fantasy of becoming-nothing is not what 無想生 offers; what it offers is a long, blank, *interruptible* gap.

Misreading 7: The graded body purity is about karmic merit.

It is not about karmic merit in the moral sense. It is about *grade of meditative cultivation* — specifically, the depth to which the 無想定 was practiced. A being who practiced more deeply gets a more luminous, longer-lasting, non-prematurely-dying body; one who practiced shallowly gets a dimmer body that may end early. This is closer to a technical consequence of practice than to a moral reward. (And it is interesting to notice: even within 無想生, the lower-grade practitioner is *worse off* than the higher-grade practitioner. The system has gradients everywhere.)


A closing note on what this concept is *for*

The *Yogācārabhūmi-śāstra* does not introduce 無想生 because it is exotic. It introduces it because it is *diagnostically necessary*. To talk about awakening (涅槃, *nirvāṇa*), the treatise needs to know what awakening is *not*. To talk about deep meditation (無想定), it needs to know what meditation produces *in the wrong direction*. To talk about the six 無心 positions, it needs a precise account of each one, with its metaphysical status correctly assigned. 無想生 is, in this sense, a *boundary marker*. It tells the practitioner: *this is what deep cessation can look like, and it is not the goal; the goal is something else, and the difference between this and the goal is the difference between the ālaya continuing and the ālaya being permanently extinguished.*

For a contemporary reader, the practical upshot is something like this: the next time you find yourself wishing to be *off* — to stop thinking, to stop feeling, to check out forever — it is worth asking the diagnostic question the *Yogācārabhūmi* would ask. *What kind of off is this?* What continues underneath? Will the clock still be running when I come back? The classical scheme does not scold the wish. It just asks, with extraordinary precision, what the wish actually is.

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定义与核心要义

无想生(asaṃjñi-upapatti),谓由修习无想定为因而感生之果,于所生天处(无想有情天或无想天)之分位中,心心所灭而不现起;其无心乃由转识暂灭而立,阿赖耶识相续未绝,于第一义上并非究竟无心。

主要阐述

《瑜伽师地论》以「有心地、无心地」之施设为总框架论说无想生,内容如下:

一、无心地之施设:论说无寻无伺地中,除无想定、无想生及灭尽定三种之外,其余一向属有心地;无想定、无想生与灭尽定则判为无心地。

二、六种无心位:论列举无心睡眠位、无心闷绝位、无想定位、无想生位、灭尽定位及无余依涅槃界位,无想生位为其中之一。

三、第一义之限定:论以「第一义建立」加以限定,谓唯有余依涅槃界方为第一义之无心地,以其中阿赖耶识亦已永灭;无想生等其余无心分位,乃转识灭而称无心,阿赖耶识尚未永灭尽,故于第一义上非无心地。此处明确以「转识」与「阿赖耶识」之别,说明无想生之无心并非一切识悉皆永灭。

四、无想定之修习与感果差别:论释无想定,谓由已离遍净贪、未离上贪,以出离想作意为先,令诸心心所唯灭静、唯不转;并说无想定是假有,非实物有。依下、中、上三品修习之差别,若由此生于无想有情天,所感依身之清净、威光、形色及寿量亦有差别:下品修者依身不甚清净,且决定中夭;中品修者依身甚清净而未达最极,可能中夭而不决定;上品修者依身最极清净,必不中夭,寿量穷满后方殒没。

五、无想之定义:论末以「由此因此缘,所有生得心心所灭,是名无想」一句,概括其生得之无想状态。

六、心不得生之因缘:论将生无想天与入无想定、入灭尽定并列,谓于相应期间,由断灭故,心不得生;同时又将此暂时性心不生与无余依涅槃界之毕竟灭明确区分。

七、生建立之旁论:论于建立三种欲生与三种乐生后指出,世人追求不苦不乐寂静生处者极为稀少,故三种乐生以上不再另立为「生」。此段虽未直接以「无想生」命名,却显示本论在生建立中对更高寂静生处之处理方式。

不同部类与译本的表述差异

本次小结仅依《瑜伽师地论》(《瑜伽師地論》,瑜伽部)一种而作,未见他部类经论之并列说明。于此论中,所用术语形式有异:

- 状态名:作「无想生」,亦作「无想生位」; - 所生天处:作「无想有情天」,亦作「无想天」。

其中「无想生」侧重生存状态之指称;「无想生位」着重其分位之施设;「无想有情天」与「无想天」则指所生之天趣处所。

与相关概念的关系

- 与无想定:无想生由修习无想定为因而感,无想定位与无想生位并列为无心位之二,但前者就定立名、后者就生处分位而立,所摄不同。 - 与灭尽定:灭尽定位亦属无心位,与无想生位同列;论并说生无想天、入无想定、入灭尽定三者皆由断灭令心不得生。 - 与无余依涅槃界:此三者虽皆无心,于第一义上唯有余依涅槃界方为无心地,无想生等仅转识灭,阿赖耶识相续未绝,故非第一义之无心地。 - 与有寻有伺地、无寻无伺地:无想生摄属无寻无伺地中之无心地。 - 与三种欲生、三种乐生:论于生之建立中,于三种乐生以上不再别立为「生」,无想天属更高寂静之生处,此段间接显示其于生建立中之位置。

代表性原文引用

- 「无寻无伺地除无想定、无想生及灭尽定,由此外一切是有心地。无想定、无想生、灭尽定是无心地。」 - 「唯有余依涅槃界是名第一义无心地。何以故?唯有余依涅槃界中,具足建立阿赖耶识永灭尽故;其余无心分位,由转识灭,是名无心,非阿赖耶识永灭尽故。」 - 「由已离遍净贪、未离上贪故;出离想作意为先故;诸心心所唯灭静、唯不转故。是名无想定。」 - 「如是无想定,是假有,非实物有。」 - 「由此因此缘,所有生得心心所灭,是名无想。」 - 「由断灭故,心不得生。」

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瑜伽師地論T1579 · 瑜伽部

《瑜伽師地論》論「無想生」時,主要將其置於「有心地、無心地」的建立中說明。論中所用的術語形式是「無想生」,亦稱其分位為「無想生位」;說到所生天處時,則用「無想有情天」或「無想天」。這些名稱各有側重:「無想生」指一種生存狀態,「無想生位」著重其所處分位,「無想有情天」則指其所生之天趣處所。

就地的施設而言,本論說無尋無伺地除去無想定、無想生及滅盡定之外,其餘一向屬於有心地;無想定、無想生與滅盡定則判為無心地。就分位而言,論列舉六種無心位,即無心睡眠位、無心悶絕位、無想定位、無想生位、滅盡定位及無餘依涅槃界位,無想生位因此是六種無心分位之一。

然而,本論又以「第一義建立」加以限定:只有無餘依涅槃界才是第一義上的無心地,因為其中阿賴耶識亦已永滅;無想生等其餘無心位,只是轉識滅而稱無心,阿賴耶識尚未永滅盡,所以在第一義上並非無心地。此處本論明確使用「轉識」與「阿賴耶識」說明無想生之無心並非一切識悉皆永滅。

論釋無想定時,說其由已離遍淨貪、未離上貪,以出離想作意為先,使諸心心所唯滅靜、唯不轉;並說無想定是假有,而非實物有。依下品、中品、上品三種修習差別,若由此生於無想有情天,所感依身之清淨、威光、形色及壽量亦有差別:下品修者依身不甚清淨,且決定中夭;中品修者依身甚清淨而未達最極,可能中夭但不決定;上品修者依身最極清淨,必不中夭,壽量窮滿後方才殞沒。論末又以「由此因此緣,所有生得心心所滅,是名無想」概括其生得的無想狀態。

從心不得生的因緣說,本論把生無想天與入無想定、入滅盡定並列:在相應期間,由斷滅故,心不得生。這說明無想生的直接特徵,是於該生存期間心不現起;但論文仍將此種暫時性的心不生,與無餘依涅槃界中的畢竟滅明確區分。

此外,本論建立三種欲生與三種樂生後指出,世間追求不苦不樂之寂靜生處者極為稀少,因此在三種樂生以上不再另立為「生」。此段雖未直接以「無想生」命名,卻呈現本論在生建立中對更高寂靜生處的處理方式。

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