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轉物

转物:当下回光返照,不随物转而能转物,即同如来之境。AI-generated

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转物之教自心境相待之假有安立(第三重)通至『即同如来』之离言境(第四重)

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What this concept is saying

Zhuǎn wù (轉物, “turning things rather than being turned by them”) means returning awareness to its own activity here and now, so that appearances, circumstances, and reactions no longer dictate the mind. One can then meet circumstances freely and transform one’s attachment to them. In its fullest sense, this is said to accord with the state of the Tathāgata.

The phrase comes from the *Śūraṅgama Sūtra* (《大佛頂首楞嚴經》):

「若能轉物,則同如來。身心圓明,不動道場。」 “If one can turn things, one is then like the Tathāgata: body and mind perfectly luminous, one does not move from the place of awakening.”

The surrounding passage first says that beings “mistake themselves for things, lose their original mind, and are turned by things” (「迷己為物,失於本心,為物所轉」). Thus *zhuan wu* is not paranormal control over matter. Its opposite is not failure to dominate the world; it is losing oneself within the world of objects, appearances, comparisons, and reactions. The fuller wording and context are preserved in the [*Śūraṅgama Sūtra* textual outline](https://www.drbachinese.org/online_reading/sutra_explanation/Shu/shurangama_outline_with_sutra.pdf).

The classical material unfolds the expression through several inseparable movements.

First, there is being turned by things—*wèi wù suǒ zhuǎn* (為物所轉). Here “things” does not mean only physical possessions. It includes whatever becomes an object of consciousness: praise and blame, attractive images, bodily discomfort, memories, opinions, status, success, failure, and even one’s idea of Buddhism. A notification appears, and attention is captured; criticism is heard, and an identity rushes forward to defend itself. The external event may be small, but the mind is already revolving around it.

This is why the *Record of Ancient Worthies* (《古尊宿語錄》) warns:

「道常合人,人自逐物。」 “The Way is always in accord with the person; the person runs after things.”

The problem is not that reality has abandoned us. Attention has gone outward in pursuit, resistance, and fixation. Something appears, and before it has been seen clearly, it has become “what I must have,” “what I cannot bear,” or “what proves who I am.”

Second, there is stepping back and illuminating. The record gives the practical instruction:

「但退步絕機,照子細看。」 “Simply step back, cut off the calculating mechanism, and illuminate—look carefully.”

“Stepping back” does not mean physically retreating from life or refusing responsibility. “Cutting off the mechanism” does not mean making the mind blank. It means suspending the machinery that instantly grasps, rejects, interprets, and devises a strategy for protecting the self.

Then comes *fǎnzhào* (返照, “turning illumination back”) or *huíguāng fǎnzhào* (迴光返照, “turning the light around to illuminate within”). Rather than looking only at the offensive message, one also sees the tightening chest, the remembered insult, the urge to retaliate, the thought “I am being disrespected,” and the attachment that converts all these events into a solid drama of self and other.

This is not introspection in the sense of endlessly analyzing one’s personality. Analysis can itself become another pursuit of objects. Returning the light means directly recognizing the present construction of experience: What is appearing? What is the mind adding? Where has an appearance hardened into “me,” “mine,” or an unquestionable reality?

Third, there is turning things. This does not necessarily change the circumstance. The difficult colleague may remain difficult; illness may still hurt; the child may continue crying. What turns is the relation between awareness and the circumstance. The appearance remains available to wisdom and compassionate action, but it no longer possesses the authority to manufacture the whole mind.

Consequently, “turning” is not replacing a negative interpretation with an artificially positive one. That would still be one mental object fighting another. Nor is it forcing oneself to feel calm. It is the recovery of enough freedom to see an appearance as an appearance, a feeling as a feeling, and an impulse as an impulse—without allowing any of them to become a sovereign command.

This connects *zhuan wu* with the *Diamond Sūtra* (《金剛般若波羅蜜經》):

「凡所有相,皆是虛妄;若見諸相非相,即見如來。」 “Whatever has characteristics is deceptive and conditioned. If one sees characteristics as not ultimately characteristics, one sees the Tathāgata.”

“Characteristics” or *xiàng* (相) are not nonexistent. A harsh email really appeared; conventional distinctions still function. To see “characteristics as not characteristics” is to see that their apparent solidity, independence, and power to define self and world have been imputed. One neither denies the email nor becomes imprisoned inside the meaning attached to it.

The *Record of Ancient Worthies* places beside this scripture an ancient master’s provocative reversal: 「若見諸相非相,即不見如來」—“If one sees characteristics as not characteristics, one does not see the Tathāgata.” This second sentence must not be passed off as another version of the sūtra. It is a Chan counter-saying. Its likely function is to prevent the practitioner from making “non-characteristics” into a new position: “Forms are false; I understand emptiness; therefore I have seen the Buddha.” Attachment to emptiness is still attachment to an appearance. The scriptural statement loosens fixation on forms; the master’s reversal loosens fixation on one’s understanding of that statement.

Finally, the record speaks of “neither delusion nor awakening” (無迷無悟). This does not mean that delusion and awakening are indistinguishable, or that practice is unnecessary. It points beyond the self-conscious duality in which “I, the deluded person, am acquiring an object called awakening.” While practice is still maturing, ethical discipline, meditation, discernment, repentance, and correction remain indispensable. But when turning is complete, freedom does not need continually to announce itself as freedom.

This locates *zhuan wu* within the path of liberation. It begins as a practical interruption of reactivity, deepens into insight into the constructed and empty nature of appearances, and matures as unobstructed compassionate responsiveness. Its aim is not merely improved emotional regulation. Emotional steadiness is a valuable fruit, but the root issue is bondage to grasping and the mistaken self that grasping continually produces.

A walkthrough in everyday life

Imagine that you are commuting home after an exhausting day. Your phone displays a short message from your partner: “You never really listen.”

The first thing present is simply a configuration of visible words. In ordinary terms, the message has meaning and may point to a genuine relational problem. *Zhuan wu* does not deny either fact.

Then bodily feeling arises: heat in the face, pressure in the chest, an unpleasant tone. Memory supplies earlier arguments. Recognition identifies the message as criticism. Mental formations generate defense, accusation, withdrawal, or a carefully sharpened reply. Consciousness keeps registering the unfolding field.

The common mapping error is to call all of this “the external object turning me.” The message is a condition, but the bondage includes the mind’s own appropriation: “This proves I am unappreciated”; “They always do this”; “I must win immediately.” Nor should “turning things” be mapped onto suppressing the bodily feeling. The unpleasantness is not a moral failure. The crucial question is whether feeling and interpretation become commands.

Being turned may unfold in seconds:

1. The message appears. 2. An unpleasant reaction arises. 3. The mind fixes a characteristic: “attack.” 4. It fixes a self: “the one being attacked.” 5. It begins pursuing objects—old evidence, imagined motives, winning arguments. 6. Speech is drafted from within that contracted world.

At this point, turning the light around means putting the phone down briefly—not as a ritual escape, but to see carefully. There is the message; there is hurt; there is the thought that hurt must immediately become retaliation. None has to be denied. But none, examined closely, is an independent and permanent self.

You may notice that your mind is composing the other person as a fixed enemy from twelve words on a screen. You may also notice an opposite temptation: using Buddhist language to dismiss them—“Their complaint is empty.” That is not turning things; it is using emptiness to avoid accountability.

When the situation is no longer running the entire mind, several responses become possible. You might reply: “I’m reacting defensively and don’t want to answer carelessly. Can we talk when I get home?” Later, you may discover that the criticism was partly justified. Turning does not guarantee that you were right. It gives you enough freedom to be corrected without psychological annihilation.

Suppose instead that the message is manipulative or abusive. Turning still does not mean passive endurance. Once fear, guilt, and the need for approval no longer dictate the whole field, a firm boundary may become possible. Sometimes the “turned” response is gentle listening; sometimes it is a clear refusal; sometimes it is leaving danger and seeking help. Freedom is measured neither by softness nor by toughness, but by reduced captivity to greed, hatred, delusion, and self-protective compulsion.

The same sequence can be seen while scrolling social media. An algorithm presents a succession of emotionally optimized objects. One image provokes envy, another indignation, another desire. Returning illumination means noticing not only the content but the capture: the hand refreshing, the anticipation of novelty, the identity strengthened by outrage, the subtle dissatisfaction after comparison.

Algorithms can help explain how attention is conditioned, but the comparison has limits. Buddhist teaching is not reducible to a theory of persuasive technology, and neuroscience has not “proved” liberation or the doctrine of emptiness. Scientific research investigates measurable cognitive and neural processes; Buddhist practice also asks a normative and soteriological question: how grasping gives rise to suffering, and how that bondage can end.

Turning the phone off may be wise, but it is not by itself *zhuan wu*. If the same craving simply moves to another object, the mechanism remains intact. Conversely, using a phone is not automatically “being turned.” One can answer a message, study, work, or enjoy beauty without handing one’s center of gravity to the object.

The *Record of Ancient Worthies* dramatizes this point through exchanges about the monastery gate and Buddha hall—「三門佛殿」. Asked how such things are to be turned, the masters do not provide a technique for mentally rearranging them. Replies such as “If I told you, would you believe me?”, “You lacquer bucket!”, and “On the road to Chang’an there are no private byways; even meeting one who understands is rare” interrupt the student’s demand for a conceptual formula. Gate and Buddha hall stand exactly where they stand. The question is: while asking how to turn them, who has already converted them into an intellectual problem and gone chasing after an answer?

Why contemporary people need it

Contemporary life is organized around invitations to be turned. Platforms compete for attention; workplaces convert metrics into identity; consumer culture repeatedly suggests that the next acquisition will stabilize the self. Even personal growth can become another carousel: a better routine, a better body, a more optimized mind, a more impressive spiritual identity.

The teaching of *zhuan wu* does not require rejecting technology, ambition, pleasure, or social participation. It asks a more penetrating question: Can these things be used without being used by them? Can success be received without turning it into selfhood? Can failure be answered without treating it as a verdict on one’s existence? Can pain be cared for without building an identity entirely out of pain?

This is why the teaching is deeper than “do not let things bother you.” A person can appear unbothered because they are numb, dissociated, privileged, exhausted, or afraid of intimacy. Buddhist freedom is not emotional anesthesia. Its test is clearer contact with reality, less compulsive appropriation, and a greater capacity for appropriate compassion.

Nor is *zhuan wu* an isolated Chan trick. It occupies a crucial junction on the liberation path:

- Ethical discipline prevents reactive impulses from immediately becoming harmful conduct. - Collectedness gives the mind enough stability to see an impulse without obeying it. - Wisdom sees that object, reaction, and reactive self arise dependently rather than existing as fixed essences. - Compassion allows the recovered freedom to serve beings rather than becoming private detachment.

Without ethics, “I am not turned by things” can become an excuse for cruelty. Without meditative steadiness, it may remain an attractive slogan. Without wisdom, it becomes ordinary self-control. Without compassion, it becomes spiritual isolation. Properly situated, however, it is the movement from compulsion toward liberation: appearances still arise, yet grasping no longer has to organize the world around them.

The phrase “then one is like the Tathāgata” names the horizon of that movement. It should not be cheapened into “I stayed calm during a meeting, so I attained Buddhahood.” A moment of non-captivity may disclose the direction of awakening, but the classical expression points to complete freedom—the “perfect luminosity of body and mind” and the “unmoving place of awakening” described by the *Śūraṅgama Sūtra*. The Chan record therefore treats it not merely as a coping strategy but as “the matter beneath the robe” (袈裟下事): the central business of a practitioner.

Common misunderstandings and clarifications

“Turning things” means controlling the external world. No. It is not psychokinesis, manifestation, or the ability to force circumstances to obey one’s wishes. That ambition would usually be another form of being turned—now by the desire for mastery. The primary transformation is from captivity to free responsiveness.

It means changing every negative thought into a positive thought. No. Positive reframing can sometimes be useful, but it remains a rearrangement of interpretations. *Zhuan wu* asks one to illuminate the grasping mechanism that makes any interpretation into an absolute.

It means withdrawing from objects and relationships. No. Physical simplification can support practice, but aversion to objects is another way objects can govern the mind. The question is not whether things are present, but whether grasping constructs bondage around them.

It means feelings should no longer arise. No. Pain, pleasure, fear, and sorrow may arise according to conditions. The distinction is between feeling and enslavement to feeling. Grief without possessive fixation is still grief; indeed, it may be more intimate because it is not buried beneath resistance.

It means the world is unreal and therefore consequences do not matter. No. “All characteristics are deceptive” does not erase conventional causality. Empty words can still wound; an empty vehicle can still strike an empty body. Emptiness means dependent, non-self-sufficient existence, not sheer nothingness. Seeing this more clearly should sharpen responsibility, not cancel it.

Returning illumination means analyzing myself indefinitely. No. Psychological reflection can be valuable, but *fanzhao* is more immediate. It notices the very movement that is presently making an object, reaction, or doctrine into something to grasp. Endless self-analysis can itself become “the person running after things.”

Not being turned means never changing one’s mind. Quite the reverse. Defensiveness is often evidence of being turned by one’s self-image. Freedom makes acknowledgment, apology, learning, and revision easier. A rigid person may be immovable, but that is not the sūtra’s “unmoving place of awakening.”

“Neither delusion nor awakening” means there is nothing to practice. No. Used prematurely, such language merely protects delusion from examination. The phrase describes a standpoint beyond attachment to the duality of deluded practitioner and acquired awakening; it does not authorize greed, hatred, or confusion. Before nonduality becomes lived freedom, ethical and contemplative training remain necessary.

**The master’s “one does not see the Tathāgata” contradicts the *Diamond Sūtra*.** As scripture, the two statements do not have equal status: 「若見諸相非相,即見如來」 is the *Diamond Sūtra’s* wording; 「即不見如來」 is the Chan master’s counter-saying quoted in the record. Read pedagogically, the second does not need to refute the first. It can remove attachment to the first—especially the conceit that one has captured the Tathāgata through a correct formula.

Ultimately, *zhuan wu* is not a method for making life obey us. It is the recovery of a mind that need not be manufactured by whatever appears. At first, the practice may be no more dramatic than feeling the impulse to retaliate and not pressing “send.” Looked at deeply, however, that pause contains the structure of the whole path: stop pursuing the object, turn illumination back, see the constructed appearance without denying it, and respond without rebuilding the prison of self and other.

The world does not have to disappear. Gate remains gate, Buddha hall remains Buddha hall, criticism remains criticism, and pain remains pain. What ceases—gradually in practice, completely in awakening—is the necessity of losing oneself among them.

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一、定义与核心要义

「转物」一语,源出经教「若能转物,即同如来」,禅宗《古尊宿语录》中屡屡拈提,以为参学之要旨。其核心义在于:当下回光返照,不为外物所转,能于一切境缘中翻身承当,体合如来。此非以心意推移外物之义,乃心体自在、转化妄执之分位与工夫。

二、主要阐述

《古尊宿语录》论「转物」,主要从以下数层展开,贯穿问答与上堂说法:

其一,引经立宗。录中明示此语出于经文:「经中道:若能转物,即同如来」,视此为经教本有之句,非祖师自造,乃全录讨论此概念之枢纽语。此语于本录中三见,为全录讨论此概念之贯穿线索。

其二,以「三门佛殿」为转物之具体落处。学人两度举「三门佛殿」设问,师家之答皆不正面说「如何转」,乃以机用逼拶:「我向汝道,汝还信么?」、「这漆桶」、「长安道上无私曲,纵遇知音到者稀」——皆显示转物非推移外物,乃当下承当、直下翻身之事,非言语思量可及。

其三,转物与诸相之关。录中紧接「若能转物」后,即引「凡所有相,皆是虚妄;若见诸相非相,即见如来」以互证,以明转物之要义在破相。然此处并存另一古德之语:「若见诸相非相,即不见如来」,与经文看似相违。录中不为裁决,留人参究,可见禅宗重在机用、不执一边之风格。

其四,实践下手处。录中明指:「但退步绝机,照子细看」。「退步绝机」即不向前驰求、不落言诠之谓;「照」即回光反照。此与下文「自返照,是合道理不合道理」相呼应,显示转物之要在于内省自照,非向外驰求。

其五,相关分位与术语。录中以「无迷无悟」标转物后之田地,示其超越迷悟对立之分位。又引马鸣祖师「三细六麤」之说以论「动即有苦」,与「无迷无悟」之田地相对。又以「袈裟下事」、「洒落行脚人」指参学之分位,皆与转物之旨相贯通。

其六,反面警策。录中另出一语:「道常合人,人自逐物」,与「若能转物」成鲜明对照:道本恒合于人,咎在人自逐于物而不返。此语揭示「转」之关键在于人之一念,非道有去来。

综上,录中论「转物」不出三层:引经一句立宗,以机用示其实,以内照指其功;术语上以「转物」、「三门佛殿」、「退步绝机」、「返照」、「无迷无悟」为主。录中对「转物」之诠释,重当下指点而非义理铺陈,是其独特处。

三、不同部类与译本的表述差异

本次所据材料仅出自《古尊宿语录》一录,未见其他部类或异译本之相关记载。录中用词前后一致,皆作「转物」,未见别译、简称或其他异名。唯录中引「若见诸相非相,即见如来」之经文,与并存之古德语「若见诸相非相,即不见如来」,形成同源文本之不同表述,录中并列存之,未加取舍。

四、与相关概念的关系

「转物」一词于《古尊宿语录》中与以下诸概念形成多重关联:

1. 与「诸相非相」之关:「凡所有相,皆是虚妄;若见诸相非相,即见如来」紧接「若能转物」引出,二者互证转物之要义在破相离执。然录中又引「若见诸相非相,即不见如来」之古德语,与之看似相违,录中不为裁决,留人参究。

2. 与「逐物」之对:「道常合人,人自逐物」与「转物」形成正反对照:前者示物之不转(即人随物转),后者示人之能转。道本恒合于人,咎在人自逐于物而不返。

3. 与「返照」之同:转物之功在于内照。录中「自返照,是合道理不合道理」与「退步绝机,照子细看」相呼应,显示返照为转物之具体下手处。

4. 与「三细六麤」、「动即有苦」之贯:马鸣祖师「三细六麤」之说以论「动即有苦」,与转物后「无迷无悟」之田地相对。前者明妄动之过患,后者示转物后之分位,二者皆与转物之旨相贯通。

5. 与「袈裟下事」、「洒落行脚人」之通:此二者指参学之分位,皆与转物之旨相通。

五、代表性原文引用

- 「经中道:若能转物,即同如来」 - 「凡所有相,皆是虚妄;若见诸相非相,即见如来」 - 「若见诸相非相,即不见如来」 - 「但退步绝机,照子细看」 - 「自返照,是合道理不合道理」 - 「道常合人,人自逐物」 - 「三门佛殿」之问答:「我向汝道,汝还信么?」、「这漆桶」、「长安道上无私曲,纵遇知音到者稀」 - 「无迷无悟」 - 马鸣祖师「三细六麤」之说以论「动即有苦」 - 「袈裟下事」、「洒落行脚人」

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古尊宿語錄X1315 · 禪宗語錄部

《古尊宿語錄》論「轉物」,核心一句:「若能轉物,即同如來」,此語於本錄三見,貫穿問答與上堂說法。

一、引經立宗。錄中明示「經中道:若能轉物,即同如來」,視此為經教本有之句,非祖師自造,乃全錄討論此概念之樞紐語。

二、以「三門佛殿」為轉物之具體落處。學人兩次舉此設問,師家之答皆不正面說「如何轉」:「我向汝道,汝還信麼?」、「這漆桶」、「長安道上無私曲,縱遇知音到者稀」——皆以機用逼拶,顯示轉物非推移外物,乃當下承當、直下翻身。

三、轉物與諸相之關。錄中緊接「若能轉物」後,引「凡所有相,皆是虗妄;若見諸相非相,即見如來」以互證。此處並存另一古德之語:「若見諸相非相,即不見如來」,與經文看似相違,錄中不為裁決,留人參究,可見其重在機用、不執一邊之風格。

四、實踐下手處。錄中明指:「但退步絕機,照子細看」。「退步絕機」即不向前馳求、不落言詮;「照」即回光反照。此與下文「自返照,是合道理不合道理」相呼應,顯示轉物之要在於內省自照,非向外求。

五、相關分位與術語。錄中以「無迷無悟」標轉物後之田地;引馬鳴祖師「三細六麤」之說以論「動即有苦」;以「袈裟下事」、「灑落行脚人」指參學分位。皆與轉物之旨相貫。

六、反面警策。錄中另出一語:「道常合人,人自逐物」,與「若能轉物」成對照:道本恆合於人,咎在人自逐於物而不返。

綜上,錄中論「轉物」不出三層:引經一句立宗,以機用示其實,以內照指其功;術語上以「轉物」、「三門佛殿」、「退步絕機」、「返照」、「無迷無悟」為主,未見與他譯相異之名稱。錄中對「轉物」之詮釋,重當下指點而非義理鋪陳,是其獨特處。

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