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這邊事

「这边事」为禅宗用语,与「那边事」对举,指语言可及、犹可作答之当下境界。AI-generated

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What This Concept Is Saying

"這邊事" is a Chan (Zen) technical term that does something unusual among Buddhist vocabulary: it does not name a thing, a stage, or a faculty. It names a *zone* — the zone where language can still reach. And it only makes sense in contrast with its twin, "那邊事" (nà biān shì — "that-side matter"), the zone where language stops. The pair functions like two banks of a river, with the current itself never named.

The only sustained classical discussion of this exact pairing comes from the *Record of Chan Master Dongshan Liangjie of Ruizhou* (《瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄》, T1986B), and the discussion is itself the definition. Dongshan and Xuefeng Yicun (雪峯義存) — two of the towering figures of Tang-dynasty Chan — have a brief exchange that the text treats as foundational. It is worth walking through slowly, because the source does not give us an abstract gloss; it gives us the event.

Dongshan one day asked Xuefeng, "Where have you come from?" Xuefeng answered, "From chopping a trough." Dongshan asked, "How many axe-strokes did it take to finish?" Xuefeng answered, "One axe-stroke finished it." Dongshan remarked, "That is still *this-side* matter. What about *that-side* matter?" Xuefeng answered again, "One gets to the point where there is no place to bring the axe down." Dongshan again remarked, "That is still *this-side* matter. What about *that-side* matter?" Xuefeng then rested, and did not answer. [paraphrased closely from T1986B]

Four things to notice — each one matters for how to read this concept today.

First, the criterion for "this side" is the form of the response, not its content. Xuefeng gives two answers that are polar opposites. The first is constructive and affirmative: "one axe-stroke finished it." This is mastery, decisiveness, the assertion that the work is whole. The second is deconstructive and negating: "no place to bring the axe down." This is the gesture of complete letting go, the assertion that there is nothing to do. A beginner might expect Dongshan to accept the second and reject the first — surely the negation is more "spiritual"? But Dongshan rejects them both with the same word: "猶是這邊事" — "still this-side matter." This is decisive. The text is not making a value judgment between affirmation and negation, between effort and non-effort, between worldly skill and spiritual surrender. It is making a structural observation: *as long as there is a respondent, the matter is still on this side*.

Second, "這邊事" in this text is not a description but a wedge. Dongshan does not use the phrase to label Xuefeng's answer. He uses it to *press past* Xuefeng's answer. Each time he says "still this-side," he is shoving the conversation one step further out. The phrase functions dynamically: it is a tool that consumes itself. Every use of it negates its previous use. By the time Xuefeng rests (休去), the phrase has done its job — which was to make the *form* of answering untenable.

Third, the text pointedly never discloses what "that-side" actually is. Dongshan asks twice, "那邊事作麼生?" — "What about that-side matter?" — and never supplies his own answer. The whole tradition of Chan gong'an (public cases) literature relies on this technique: the master withholds. If Dongshan had said, "that-side matter is X," he would have produced another "this-side" answer — just one more proposition to argue over. The silence around "that-side" is not a missing piece of information. It is the information. The reader is forced to notice that the concept has been deliberately constructed to point at something language cannot deliver.

Fourth, this conversation is embedded in ordinary work. The very first question — "where have you come from?" — receives the answer "from chopping a trough." Dongshan then asks about the axe-strokes. Throughout the same record, Xuefeng is asked about washing rice, writing the character 佛 (Buddha) on a fan, and other everyday tasks. This is not ornamental detail. The classical Chan tradition is emphatic that awakening is not found in retreat from daily activity but in it. "本分事" (běnfèn shì — one's fundamental matter) and "己事" (jǐ shì — one's own matter) are the more familiar terms for this, and the source material explicitly notes that "這邊事" is a *variant phrasing* of the same concern. But where "本分事" emphasizes the *subject* who must awaken, "這邊事" emphasizes the *field of language* in which awakening is being asked about. The shift in emphasis matters.

Where This Sits in the Liberation Path

In Chan pedagogy, the path toward awakening (成佛之道) is often described as a sequence: first, *起疑情* (qǐ yíqíng — the arising of a great doubt), the genuine question that will not let you rest; then *逼拶* (bīzā — pressing/coercion by the teacher), the relentless pushing past comfortable answers; then *言語道斷,心行處滅* (yányǔ dào duàn, xīn xíng chù miè — "the path of words is cut off, the place of mental activity is extinguished"), a stock phrase Chan borrows from the *Nirvāṇa Sūtra* (《涅槃經》) and the *Avataṃsaka Sūtra* (《華嚴經》), describing the moment where discursive thought and conceptual movement both fall away. *That* moment — the fall — is what "這邊事" is being contrasted against. "這邊事" is the last stretch of speakable ground before the fall. It is not a low stage to be ashamed of. It is the very edge.

This is why the term is useful precisely when language is functioning well: when the student is articulate, when concepts are clear, when answers are ready. The concept says: every one of those articulate answers is still *this side*. The student is then left standing at the edge — articulate, fluent, and suddenly unable to proceed. That suspended state is the pedagogical target. The famous line from the *Diamond Sūtra* (《金剛經》) — "應無所住而生其心" (yīng wú suǒ zhù ér shēng qí xīn — "one should give rise to a mind that does not dwell anywhere") — speaks to this same threshold from a different angle, and the *Heart Sūtra*'s (《心經》) "照見五蘊皆空" (zhào jiàn wǔ yùn jiē kōng — "clearly see that the five aggregates are all empty") describes the kind of seeing that only becomes available once the discursive chain has been interrupted. "這邊事" names the discursive chain itself.

Life Walk-through

Let us walk this concept through several contemporary scenes. The mapping must be strict: anything that can be articulated in words — including articulate denial, including articulate silence-as-statement, including articulate inner commentary — is on this side. The edge is reached when articulation, even of "I cannot articulate," no longer fits the situation.

Scene 1: The commute. You are on a train and a colleague asks, "How was your weekend?" You answer smoothly: "Went hiking. The trail was packed. We turned back early and got dumplings. Honestly kind of a relief." Each sentence is this-side matter. You are doing it well — you are giving a coherent narrative, selecting highlights, conveying mood. Now suppose the same colleague asks, "Were you actually happy out there, or were you just performing 'I'm a person who hikes' for Instagram?" You pause. A small defensiveness rises. You begin to construct: "No, I genuinely—" That "I genuinely" is this-side matter too. Even if your next word is the truest thing you have ever said, *as an answer to a question*, it is this-side. The threshold is somewhere else — not in your choice of words, but in the moment before the choice, when the question landed and there was just a recognition without a sentence attached. That recognition, if you happened to notice it, was not on either side. It was the seam.

Scene 2: The phone scroll. Late at night. The algorithm offers a reel, then another, then another. You catch yourself and think, "I should stop, this is bad for me." That thought is articulate; it is a small internal speech-act. It is this-side. You decide to put the phone down. The decision is a sentence, even if unspoken. It is this-side. You put it down and pick it up again. That picking-up is also a sentence. It is this-side. Then — perhaps — there is a moment where the phone is simply set down, and there is no chooser, no "I should," no "I did," no relief, no failure. Just the phone on the table. Most people never notice that moment; it is too thin to register. But it is the place the conversation in T1986B is pointing at. The text does not say that moment is *good*. It says it is on the *other side* of the wedge Dongshan is driving.

Scene 3: The performance review. Your manager says, "Your work has been solid. There's one thing — in meetings, you sometimes talk over people. Have you noticed that?" You can absorb the praise ("solid"). You can absorb the criticism ("talks over people"). Both absorptions are articulate, even if silent. Both are this-side. You can also do the more sophisticated move of accepting *and* resisting, of noticing that the criticism lands but also that "talking over" is a pattern your manager has also been doing — that meta-observation is also articulate, also this-side. Now: what is the actual experience of being told something difficult about yourself? Before any of these responses assembles itself, there is something — call it a tightening, or a flash of heat, or an urge to defend — that *precedes* language. That flash, when it is simply present without being turned into a sentence, is the seam again. Chan would say the work is to *be* at that flash without immediately translating it. The translation is this-side. The flash is what is being pointed at.

Scene 4: Intimacy. A long-term partner asks, "Do you still love me?" A complete answer is "yes." Another complete answer is "yes, but it's different." Another is silence. None of them resolves the question, because the question was never really a question about the answer. It was about the *space* in which an answer could be given at all. You can give an answer — any answer — and that answer is this-side matter. The threshold is something like this: you turn toward the person, and for a moment there is no "you" formulating and no "I" being formulated to, just the turning itself. That turning, as an act that does not yet have a sentence attached, is what the Chan texts are after. (Note: this is not the same as "be spontaneous" or "don't overthink." It is also not the same as "be silent so your partner feels seen." Both of those are articulate programs. The actual turning is recognizable mostly by its lack of program.)

Scene 5: Meditation. You sit. The breath is in, the breath is out. You notice the breath. You can describe it: "shallow, fast, in the chest." All descriptions are this-side. You can also describe the *noticing*: "I am observing the breath." That is this-side too. Now, what is the actual observation? At some point during a sit, the observer and the observed and the observing — all three — collapse. There is just *this*, without the three-part structure. That collapse, when it happens, does not arrive as a sentence. It cannot be reported in real time; by the time you form "I just had a moment of—" the moment is already being recollected, and the recollection is this-side matter again. Chan teachers sometimes call this collapse "本來面目" (běnlái miànmù — "original face"), a phrase that appears throughout the *Record of Dongshan* and elsewhere. Note carefully: the source material here describes a structural feature of language and attention, not an experience to manufacture. You cannot chase the collapse. You can only notice when you are back on this side.

The most common mistake to map onto all five scenes is the one Dongshan himself warned against: assuming that affirmation is worldly and negation is spiritual. In every scene above, both the "positive" response (decide to put the phone down, say yes I love you, notice the breath is shallow) and the "negative" response (let the algorithm win, sit in silence, stop trying to observe) are still this-side. Even the most sophisticated negations — "I have no self," "all phenomena are empty," "I am not the doer" — remain articulate propositions and are therefore still on this side. The wedge Dongshan drives works on negation too. This is why the source says explicitly that the criterion is the *act of answering*, not what is answered.

Why Contemporary People Need This Concept

We live in an era of unprecedented articulation. The inner life that earlier centuries left largely private is now expected to be named, posted, captioned, hashtagged, therapized, optimized. The architecture of contemporary selfhood rewards fluency: in self-description, in identity-formation, in opinion-having. There are sophisticated vocabularies for every inner state — anxious attachment, burnout, flow state, hypervigilance, liminal space, intergenerational trauma — and these vocabularies are genuinely useful. They ease suffering. They build community. They clarify.

But the vocabulary also has a structural feature that the Chan tradition noticed long before our era: *every articulate name is on this side*. The most refined description of one's own anxiety is still a description, and descriptions are on this side. The most accurate naming of one's attachment pattern is still a naming. And — and this is the uncomfortable part — even the sophisticated meta-move of noticing that "naming is insufficient" is itself a naming. The noticing, once it becomes articulate, joins the chain.

"這邊事" is a useful concept precisely because it does not attack this chain. It does not say articulation is bad, or that words are lies, or that true knowledge is wordless. It says something much more precise: that articulate knowing has a *limit*, and the limit is structural, not a failure of eloquence. Recognizing that limit does not invalidate what articulate knowing does. It just stops it from being mistaken for the whole.

A second reason this matters today: we are now building non-human systems — large language models, recommendation algorithms, conversational agents — whose entire mode of being is articulate. They can produce fluent, context-appropriate, even moving language on demand, without end. The Chan question "what is the limit of language?" is no longer a philosophical curiosity. It is becoming a practical orientation question for anyone who uses these tools. What can articulate systems reach? What can they not reach, not because of a bug, but because articulate is their nature? "這邊事" is, among other things, a name for the entire reachable field of articulate systems — including the articulate subsystem of your own mind. The "那邊事" is the question that articulate systems, by their structure, cannot answer. This is not a claim that artificial systems are enlightened, nor that consciousness is computable; both of those framings miss the point. The point is that the *form* of articulation has a structural boundary, and that boundary is what T1986B is mapping.

A third reason: in a culture that treats every discomfort as something to be *named and processed*, recognizing the limit of naming is a relief. There is a kind of fatigue that comes from endless articulation — from always being able to say how one feels, always being expected to. "這邊事" does not tell you to stop talking. It tells you that *talking, however good, has a far edge*. Knowing there is a far edge lets you stop trying to push the articulate chain further than it can go. You can be articulate, and also know that articulate is not all.

Common Misreadings and Clarifications

Misreading 1: "這邊事" = worldly life; "那邊事" = spiritual life. This is the most common reading and it inverts the actual structure of the text. Dongshan does not judge the affirmative answer ("one axe-stroke") as more worldly than the negative answer ("no place to strike"). Both are judged the same. The criterion is not content — mundane versus sacred, easy versus hard, beginner versus advanced. It is *form*: the act of speaking itself. A perfectly mundane answer about chopping wood is on this side; a perfectly mystical answer about the void is also on this side. To assume that spiritual talk has crossed over is to mistake the destination for the path.

Misreading 2: "這邊事" is a low stage to be ashamed of. The text does not disparage "this side." Xuefeng's answers are masterful Chan moves; they exhibit real presence of mind. The phrase "猶是這邊事" ("still this-side matter") is a *pedagogical move*, not a verdict of failure. Dongshan uses it as a wedge to keep pushing. If a student thought "this-side" was shameful, the wedge would be useless; shame would just add another articulate layer to defend against. The wedge works because the student is willing to keep going beyond articulate answers. Without the willingness, "still this-side" would be crushing rather than liberating.

Misreading 3: To realize "that-side," one should simply stop talking. This is a tempting reading — and a common misunderstanding of Chan "silence" (沈默). But silence-as-practice is still articulate in a structural sense: it is a response to the question "what should I do?" Most trained silence is itself a kind of speech. Dongshan himself does not go silent in the exchange; he keeps asking. The "rest" (休去) that Xuefeng finally does is not presented as a technique. It is presented as what happens *when* the articulate chain runs out — which is different from *choosing* to be silent. The difference between silence that is a chosen response and silence that is the end of response is the entire difference between a refined "this-side" performance and what the text is pointing at. Conflating the two is a frequent error among beginners, who can produce a very disciplined silence — and never notice that the discipline itself is articulate.

Misreading 4: The exchange proves Xuefeng awakened. It does not. The text records that Xuefeng "rested and did not answer." It does not record recognition, tears, laughter, or any other classic Chan marker of breakthrough. The source is unusually restrained here, and the restraint is part of the teaching. A student who reads "休去" as automatic awakening will read every exhausted silence as awakening — including their own. The text is more careful than that. It is showing us the *formal* structure of a certain kind of exchange, not certifying the outcome. This is one of the things that makes T1986B pedagogically dense: it refuses to close the case.

Misreading 5: "這邊事" is the same as "本分事." Related, but not identical, and the source flags this explicitly. "本分事" / "己事" — one's own fundamental matter — points at the *subject* who must awaken; it asks "what is your real business here?" "這邊事" points at the *linguistic field* in which the asking is happening; it asks "what is the limit of what can be said about that?" They overlap in everyday Chan usage, but the emphasis is different. "本分事" can be probed with or without language; "這邊事" specifically concerns the linguistic threshold. Conflating them obscures what T1986B is actually doing — which is mapping a structural feature of articulate discourse, not a stage of practice.

Misreading 6: Since articulate knowledge has a limit, articulation is useless. This would be a category mistake. The Chan tradition is not anti-language. The entire koan (公案) literature is built from articulate exchanges. The *Platform Sūtra of the Sixth Patriarch* (《六祖壇經》) — perhaps the single most influential Chan text — is itself a long articulate document. Huineng (慧能), the Sixth Patriarch, teaches through words; he just teaches that words have a far edge. "這邊事" honors articulate work by naming its boundary clearly. To use the concept as an excuse for laziness of speech — "words are inadequate, so why try?" — would be to use the wedge as a pillow.


A final note. The *Record of Dongshan* does something distinctive with this term: it embeds a profound structural observation inside an apparently casual conversation about axe-strokes and troughs. The choice is not aesthetic. Chan pedagogy, from its earliest strata, has insisted that the most acute questions are not the abstract ones but the ones embedded in the present task. When you are chopping, you are already at the edge of "this-side matter." When you stop, you are at "that-side matter." When you try to say which is which, you are back on "this-side matter." The conversation between Dongshan and Xuefeng is not a report of something that happened once. It is a diagram of a structure that is always already happening — every time you speak, every time you stop, every time you rest without answering. The concept is offered not as something to learn but as something to notice. And noticing, the tradition would say, has its own far edge.

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一、定义与核心要义

「这边事」为禅宗用语,与「那边事」相对而称,指语言可及、犹可作答之当下境界。依《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》所载,凡有言说对答者皆属「这边」;其对面「那边事」则超言语、不可施设,乃禅门机锋所逼向之终极。本概念之要义在于:凡可指陈、可言诠、可着力之境,皆名「这边事」;其极限则在语言停顿之处。

二、主要阐述

《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》载洞山良价与雪峰义存之一场机锋问答,对「这边事」之义涵有最直接之展示。原文云:洞山一日问雪峰作什么来,雪峰答「斫槽来」;问几斧斫成,雪峰答「一斧斫成」。洞山评曰:「犹是这边事。那边事作么生。」雪峰再答:「直得无下手处。」洞山复判:「犹是这边事。那边事作么生。」雪峰于是休去不答。

由此对话可归纳本经对「这边事」之数端要旨:

其一,「这边事」与「那边事」乃相互对待而成之一组概念。雪峰先以「一斧斫成」作答,是肯定性、有所建立之语;后以「直得无下手处」作答,是否定性、破除一切之语。洞山对两种截然不同之回答皆判为「这边事」,可知本经并非以内容之有无、难易来区分「这边」与「那边」,而是以「此作答之举本身是否仍属可言之域」为判准。凡有言说对答,皆属「这边」。

其二,「这边事」在此经中具动态逼问之教学功能。洞山两度以「那边事作么生」追问,连续否定雪峰之两次回答,形成层层逼近之机锋。雪峰最终「休去」,意指无言可对,正是「这边事」被彻底逼破之关节。此叙述暗示:「这边事」乃语言可及之当下境界,而「那边事」之不可言传,须在语言停顿处自悟。

其三,本经对「那边事」始终未作正面开示。洞山两次以「那边事作么生」发问,却未指出何为「那边事」之真实面貌;雪峰亦终未能作出最终回答。此种留白结构,使「这边事」在此经中不仅为一描述性概念,更成为不断被翻转、不断被消解之动态机锋,引导参学者越过言诠之域。

其四,从上下文观之,此段对话紧接于雪峰其他多则机缘之后,包括淘米、斫槽、扇上书佛等日常作务之问答。此显示「这边事」之开示并非悬空之玄谈,而是扣紧当下作务、眼前事物而展开。禅门所谓「当下切身的本分事」,在此经中即以「这边事」之形式被反复逼问。

三、不同部类与译本的表述差异

本条目所据「这边事」一词仅见于《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》(诸宗部·《瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄》),此为禅宗灯录体文献。值得注意的是,此经以「这边/那边」相对结构呈现此概念,并未以「本分事」或「己事」等常见禅门用语单独定义「这边事」。此为本经用词上之一大特色,亦为后世禅籍中所罕见之表达方式。又,本经为禅宗语录,无异译本之别译问题。

四、与相关概念的关系

「这边事」与「那边事」乃一组对待概念,须合观方见其意。「这边事」在禅门语境中与「本分事」「己事」等概念有相通之处——皆指向当下修行之切要——然其独特处在于,须与「那边事」对举方能显出「言语可及」之限定意涵。「本分事」「己事」侧重于主体之自悟自省;「这边事」则着重于语言层面之「犹可指陈」。又,「这边事」在洞山此段对话中具动态消解之机用——经由两度否定,雪峰最终无言而止——此与一般静态描述性概念不同,实为一机锋语而非定义语。

五、代表性原文引用

《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》载此段对话最为完整,原文如下:

洞山一日問雪峯作什麼來,雪峯答「斫槽來」;問幾斧斫成,雪峯答「一斧斫成」。洞山評曰:「猶是這邊事。那邊事作麼生。」雪峯再答:「直得無下手處。」洞山仍判:「猶是這邊事。那邊事作麼生。」雪峯於是休去。

此段对话中,「犹是这边事」反复出现两次,标志着洞山对雪峰两种性质迥异之回答(肯定性与否定性)作同一判定,从而揭示「这边事」之判定标准不在于回答内容之有无,而在于言说对答之形式本身。

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瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄T1986B · 諸宗部

《瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄》對「這邊事」一詞的使用,集中見於洞山與雪峯的一段往復問答之中。原文載:「師云。猶是這邊事。那邊事作麼生。雪峯云。直得無下手處。師云。猶是這邊事。那邊事作麼生。雪峯休去。」

此段問答的結構層次分明。洞山先問雪峯斫槽「幾斧斫成」,雪峯答以「一斧斫成」;洞山隨即評為「猶是這邊事」,並追問「那邊事作麼生」。雪峯改以「直得無下手處」作答,此語已試圖超越具象之斧痕、指向無下手處;洞山卻再度指出「猶是這邊事」,再次追問「那邊事作麼生」。雪峯最終無語,「休去」。

由這段對話,可見本錄對「這邊事」之論述有以下幾項要點:

其一,術語形式上,本錄以「這邊事」與「那邊事」對舉連用,構成一組固定的搭配,未見其他變體詞形。「這邊事」並非孤立出現,而是依附於「那邊事作麼生」的追問句式之中,反覆逼顯其意涵。

其二,所指內涵上,「這邊事」涵蓋一切尚可以語言回應之境界。無論是直白簡明的「一斧斫成」,抑或似已超越言詮的「直得無下手處」,只要仍屬以言語作答的層次,即被歸入「這邊事」之域。

其三,論述方式上,本錄並未以定義方式解說此詞,而是透過反覆的問答逼顯其意。洞山兩度將雪峯之語判為「這邊事」,意味著一切語言答覆——即便是嘗試指向離言之語——皆不離「這邊事」。唯有雪峯最後的「休去」無語,方暫出此域,呈現出語言在「這邊事」中之限度。

其四,本錄此段問答與同段中其他機鋒往復(如「見智者否」「入門來須有語」「淘沙去米。淘米去沙」等)並列,顯示「這邊事」「那邊事」之辨並非純粹的概念辨析,而是洞山接引學人的具體手段:藉由不斷將回應歸入「這邊事」,迫使問者離開語言可得之處,向「那邊事」處探入。

總結而言,本錄以「猶是這邊事。那邊事作麼生」之追問句式,呈顯「這邊事」為語言可及、猶可作答之當下境界;不論答語直顯或玄妙,皆落於此域;其極致則以受問者之無語休去為暫歇。

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