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得意忘言

彻悟言外之旨而超脱于名言执着,禅宗用以描述悟境及勘验学人之语。AI-generated

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与依义不依语同族之观行原则,本身无特定见地依托故 无初立层;宗旨在彻悟言外、超脱名言执著,有明确究竟指向,读至离言(四)。

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What this concept is saying

得意忘言 (*dé yì wàng yán*, “grasping the meaning and releasing the words”) means awakening to what words are pointing toward, so that one is no longer bound by the words themselves. In Chan Buddhism, it describes both a quality of realization and a way of testing whether a practitioner has genuinely passed beyond attachment to names and doctrines.

The phrase contains a movement with two stages—and, in its more penetrating Chan use, a third:

1. One listens to the words and follows their direction. 2. One realizes their intended meaning and ceases clinging to the wording. 3. One relinquishes even the “meaning” one thinks one has acquired.

The third movement is decisive. If “forgetting words” merely leaves behind a cherished interpretation—“I now possess the truth behind the scriptures”—then attachment has moved house; it has not ended. Words have been abandoned, but an idea called “the meaning” has become a subtler possession.

The word 意 (*yì*, “meaning” or “purport”) therefore does not mean whatever private impression a reader happens to take from a text. It is not permission to say, “The words do not matter; what matters is what they mean to me.” It refers to realizing what a teaching is directing one to see. In Chan, that realization must become present and operative rather than remain an explanation stored in the mind.

The classical material illustrates this through several distinct images and encounters.

First, 《古尊宿语录》 (*Records of the Venerable Ancient Masters*) speaks of “arriving home”:

“One who has truly arrived home grasps the meaning and forgets the words; one wandering helplessly outside follows feelings and produces interpretations. Once emotional interpretation arises, names and characteristics flourish; when words and meaning are both forgotten, the ten directions are completely open.”

“Arriving home” is not acquiring a perfect religious vocabulary. It is no longer standing outside reality and trying to reach it by manufacturing interpretations. The contrast is between direct freedom and 随情起解—producing explanations under the pressure of one’s conditioned reactions. A person may know a great deal about emptiness, Buddha-nature, or nonduality while still using those ideas to defend pride, avoid grief, or win arguments. In that case, names have multiplied, but the person remains “outside.”

Second, the same collection records a monk asking about 得句忘言 (*dé jù wàng yán*, “obtaining the phrase and forgetting the words”). The master asks, “Right now, what phrase have you obtained?” After the monk replies, the master says, “Spit it out.” The point is not theatrical contempt for teaching. The master is examining whether the monk has made “forgetting words” into one more polished formula. Even the phrase that seemed to open the gate must not be carried around as a certificate of attainment.

Third comes the image of the fishing implement:

“Those who receive only the words are lost; those who stagnate in phrases are confused. Having caught the fish, forget the fish-trap; having obtained the meaning, forget the words. One borrows a net to seek the fish—the fish is not the net.”

The correspondences should remain exact:

- The fish is what is to be realized. - The net or fish-trap is the verbal teaching used to reach it. - Catching the fish is not merely understanding a sentence intellectually. - Forgetting the net means no longer mistaking the instrument for the reality it served.

This imagery is related to 得鱼忘筌 (*dé yú wàng quán*, “having caught the fish, forgetting the trap”), classically associated with the *Zhuangzi*. Chan adopts it to clarify the relation between teaching and realization. Yet “forgetting the trap” cannot sensibly mean throwing away the trap before catching anything. Disregarding teachings out of impatience is not transcendence. It is simply failure to use the means provided.

Fourth, the *Record of Chan Master Dongshan Liangjie of Ruizhou* places 得意忘言 inside a sharp encounter. Dongshan says, “佛之与道,俱是名言”—“Buddha and the Way are both names and words.” When asked what the teaching says, he replies, “得意忘言.”

Here “Buddha” and “Way” are not dismissed as meaningless. They are recognized as 名言 (*míngyán*, names and verbal designations): indispensable teaching conventions that should not be reified into self-existing things. Saying the word “Buddha” does not put Buddhahood into one’s hand; constructing a concept called “the Way” does not place one on it.

The dialogue then turns once more. The head monk remarks that one may still keep “the meaning of the teaching in the mind as an illness.” This exposes a deeper structure:

- First, attachment to names is broken. - Then attachment to the meaning supposedly obtained from those names is broken. - Finally, there is no identity built around being someone who has transcended words.

This is why 《古尊宿语录》 can also speak of 言意两忘 (*yán yì liǎng wàng*, “forgetting both words and meaning”). “Meaning” has done its work when it brings the practitioner to seeing; it becomes an obstruction when it is frozen into a metaphysical object or a spiritual possession.

This places 得意忘言 within the whole path of liberation. Buddhist teaching uses concepts to disclose conditioned experience: suffering and its causes, impermanence, non-self, dependent arising, ethical causality, concentration, and insight. These teachings correct distorted perception. But liberation is not the substitution of a Buddhist conceptual system for an ordinary conceptual system. It is freedom from the grasping through which one turns experiences, doctrines, and identities into “me” and “mine.”

Words thus belong to the path as skillful means. They orient conduct, expose error, and guide contemplation. But the culmination of the path must transform seeing, craving, and attachment—not merely vocabulary. A map may prevent a traveler from taking the wrong road; no amount of reverence for the map is identical with walking.

“若也得意忘言,自然超今越古”—“If one grasps the meaning and forgets the words, one naturally passes beyond present and ancient,” says 《古尊宿语录》. “Passing beyond ancient and present” does not mean acquiring supernatural independence from time. It means that the living point of the teaching is not imprisoned in historical phrasing. When one directly sees what the ancient masters were indicating, their words cease to be remote artifacts. Yet this very intimacy also prevents casual invention: one does not honor the masters by making their texts say whatever one prefers.

A walkthrough in everyday life

Imagine that, after a long day of work, you send your partner a carefully written message explaining why you felt ignored. They reply with only two words: “I understand.”

Almost immediately, the machinery of interpretation begins.

First there are the actual words: “I understand.” They are a verbal sign, not the whole event. Tone, intention, bodily state, previous conflicts, and the living relationship are not contained exhaustively in those two words.

Next, conditioned feeling supplies an interpretation: “That sounds cold.” Memory contributes evidence: “They replied like this last month too.” The mind begins constructing a stable picture: “They never really listen.” At this point, 名相 (*míngxiàng*, “names and characteristics” or conceptual labels) proliferate. A short message has become “coldness,” then “indifference,” then a verdict about an entire person and relationship.

Suppose you have studied Chan and remember, “Words are only a net.” That teaching can serve as a useful net. It interrupts the reflex that equates a sentence on a screen with the total reality of another human being. You pause, notice the hurt beneath your interpretation, and ask your partner what they meant.

They tell you they were hurrying to care for a crying child and wanted to acknowledge the message before returning to it properly. Now you have obtained more of the intended meaning. The phrase was not a complete emotional performance; it was a provisional bridge.

But the walkthrough is not finished. You could now cling to the lesson: “Text messages are always unreliable,” or, “I am the spiritually mature one who sees beyond language.” That new conclusion is another net. 得意忘言 asks you to release it as well. In a different situation, “I understand” might indeed be dismissive. The teaching does not replace sensitivity with a universal rule; it releases the compulsion to treat one interpretation as self-evident reality.

The same process appears while scrolling through social media.

You encounter a post containing the term “attachment.” Because you have heard Buddhism criticized as emotionally detached, you read the word as “not caring.” You then either reject Buddhism or use the term to avoid emotional responsibility: “I’m practicing nonattachment, so I don’t need to deal with this relationship.”

The mapping error occurs at the first step: a Buddhist technical term has been reduced to an everyday association. Here, forgetting the word before learning its disciplined meaning would be premature. One must first discover what form of grasping is being diagnosed, how it conditions suffering, and how nonattachment differs from indifference. Only then can the term perform its guiding function. Once the grasping itself is seen and loosened in experience, repeatedly displaying the label “nonattachment” adds nothing.

Consider one more scene: a parent tells an agitated child, “Take a breath.” The sentence is a practical pointer. If the child argues about the grammar, the instruction has not landed. If the child repeats “take a breath” ten times while continuing to shout, the words have been memorized but their function has not been realized. If the child actually feels the breath and settles, the sentence can recede. Yet even then, breathing is not a magical formula suitable for every problem; illness, danger, or genuine injustice may require other responses. The net works according to circumstances.

This is close to how a meditation instruction functions. “Observe the breath” is not asking one to worship the phrase, endlessly define “observe,” or construct an image of a perfect meditator. It directs attention toward an activity that must be enacted. Once attention is present, the verbal instruction grows quiet. If the meditator then thinks, “Now I have reached the state beyond words,” that self-congratulating thought must also be seen and released.

A comparison with contemporary AI can be illuminating if kept modest. A language model can produce fluent explanations of compassion, emptiness, or meditation. Fluency shows facility with linguistic patterns; it does not by itself establish realization, ethical transformation, or freedom from craving. Human beings can fall into an analogous trap: because we can generate the right discourse, we assume we embody what it describes. This is only an analogy. It neither proves a Buddhist claim nor settles unresolved scientific and philosophical questions about intelligence, consciousness, or understanding.

In each scene, the movement is the same:

- Receive the words accurately rather than carelessly. - Follow what they are directing attention toward. - Test the teaching in lived experience. - Do not mistake the formulation for the reality. - Do not turn the discovered meaning into a new possession.

That last point is where an everyday communication lesson becomes a teaching of liberation. The issue is not merely that words sometimes fail. The deeper issue is the mind’s urge to secure itself through positions: “I know what this means,” “My interpretation is reality,” “I possess the true teaching,” or “I am someone who has gone beyond concepts.” 得意忘言 exposes that appropriating movement.

Why contemporary people need it

Contemporary life is saturated with language stripped of context: headlines, captions, search results, slogans, chat messages, automated summaries, doctrinal fragments, and quotations presented by algorithms because they provoke engagement. Under these conditions, “receiving the words and losing the reality” is not an occasional mistake; it can become a habitual mode of consciousness.

We are repeatedly invited to react to labels before encountering what they label. A person becomes “toxic,” “awakened,” “narcissistic,” “traditional,” or “progressive.” A complex event becomes a slogan. A spiritual practice becomes a personal brand. Labels can serve legitimate communicative and diagnostic purposes, but once treated as complete realities they conceal more than they reveal.

得意忘言 offers three correctives.

The first is epistemic humility. Words select and frame; they do not exhaust what they describe. This does not mean that every interpretation is equally sound. Some readings are supported by context, conduct, and evidence; others are careless or self-serving. Humility means remembering that an accurate description is still a description.

The second is practical verification. Chan repeatedly asks, in effect: What has this teaching changed here? Can one meet anger without immediately becoming it? Can one hear criticism without constructing a permanent self under attack? Can one respond to suffering without turning compassion into a slogan? A doctrine earns its place on the path by guiding practice and insight, not by decorating identity.

The third is freedom from spiritual possession. Contemporary seekers can accumulate teachings as rapidly as they accumulate media. One can compare schools, quote masters, and discuss advanced states while ordinary resentment remains untouched. 得意忘言 redirects attention from collection to digestion. The relevant question is not “How many teachings do I know?” but “Has grasping actually loosened?”

This also explains why the concept is not anti-intellectual. Careful scholarship protects practitioners from projecting their preferences onto the tradition. Translation, historical study, doctrinal distinction, and logical examination are part of using the net well. Chan’s warning concerns fixation, not accuracy. Indeed, a person who has never carefully understood a teaching cannot credibly claim to have transcended it.

Nor does 得意忘言 make language disposable. After realizing what a teaching points toward, a practitioner may still use the same words to help others. The net is not destroyed; it is no longer mistaken for the fish. The Buddha’s path is communicated, practiced, clarified, and transmitted through conventional forms. Freedom from attachment to language permits more responsive speech—speech suited to the person and situation—rather than compulsory silence.

At its deepest, the teaching challenges the fantasy that liberation can be possessed as an object of thought. We imagine awakening, name it, compare it with other states, and then seek to acquire the imagined object for ourselves. But the very structure of “I will secure this special thing called awakening” can perpetuate grasping. Chan language cuts through that structure. It uses words to bring us to the edge of what thought can organize, and then tests whether we can stop clutching the explanation.

Common misunderstandings and clarifications

1. “It means that scriptures and teachings are unnecessary.”

No. Words are compared to a net because they can catch the fish. A useless net would make the image pointless. Ethical precepts, meditation instructions, doctrinal distinctions, and records of awakening orient practice and correct error. The mistake is not using words; it is mistaking their use for realization.

Discarding teachings before understanding and practicing them is not 得意忘言. It is forgetting the net before catching the fish.

2. “It means the true teaching can be whatever I feel it is.”

No. 意 is not arbitrary private sentiment. The classical records present masters testing students precisely because self-generated interpretations can masquerade as insight. Context, established teaching, practice, conduct, and the reduction of grasping all matter. “Beyond words” is not immunity from correction.

3. “It means Buddhism believes nothing can be said.”

No. Chan produced an enormous literary tradition and used dialogue with remarkable precision. Language can indicate, distinguish, instruct, challenge, and heal. What it cannot do is substitute for the realization it indicates. The claim is not that speech is impossible, but that speech is instrumental and non-exhaustive.

4. “Forgetting words means becoming silent.”

Not necessarily. Silence can be another pose. A person may refuse to answer because of confusion and call that refusal “ineffable wisdom.” In the Dongshan encounter, failure to respond is not automatically treated as attainment. Chan silence has meaning only in context; outward muteness does not prove inward freedom.

A realized person may speak abundantly. The question is whether speech arises responsively or whether the speaker is imprisoned by formulations and identity.

5. “Once the meaning is obtained, I should hold firmly to it.”

This is the subtler error exposed in Dongshan’s record. Holding “the teaching’s meaning” in the mind can itself become an illness. One may abandon literalism but cling to a grand interpretation—emptiness, nonduality, pure awareness, or “everything is just a concept.” The label has changed, but appropriation continues.

Hence the movement from 得意忘言 to 言意两忘: not only words but the conceptual object called “meaning” must cease to be a place of fixation.

6. “Names are conventional, so ethical distinctions do not matter.”

This does not follow. Calling “Buddha” and “Way” names does not erase the practical difference between cruelty and compassion, deception and truthfulness, heedlessness and attention. Conventional designations can guide consequential choices even though they are not self-existing realities. Nonattachment to names is not moral indifference.

7. “The fish and the net are completely unrelated.”

No. “The fish is not the net” means that the reality indicated is not identical to the linguistic instrument. It does not mean that any net catches any fish or that words bear no relation to their object. Some teachings are appropriate, some interpretations are mistaken, and some formulations work only under particular conditions.

8. “Going beyond ancient and present means surpassing the old masters.”

Not in the competitive sense. “超今越古” points to meeting the living purport rather than remaining separated from it by historical language. One no longer treats the ancients as museum pieces or their words as magical relics. Their insight becomes a present matter: this mind, this attachment, this opportunity to release it.

9. “得意忘言 is a final theory about language.”

That would make the phrase contradict its own function. It is better understood as an instruction and a diagnostic instrument. It asks: Are the words opening experience, or have they become a wall? Has the teaching loosened attachment, or become new material for attachment? Can the phrase itself now be released?

The most faithful response to 得意忘言 is therefore neither worship of language nor contempt for it. Receive the teaching carefully. Understand its distinctions. Put it to work. Let it expose grasping. And when the words have brought you to what they indicate, do not build a shrine to the signpost.

Then look once more: if you are carrying “the meaning” as a treasure that makes you special, that too is something to spit out.

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定义与核心要义

「得意忘言」意谓彻悟言外之旨而超脱于语言文字之执着,是禅宗用以描述悟者境界与勘验学人是否透脱名相之关键用语。此语与「言意两忘」「得句忘言」「得鱼忘筌」等概念密切相关,核心精神在于:语言文字仅为指向实相之工具,悟得实质之后便须放下言句本身,不执名言、不滞教意,方为究竟。

主要阐述

《古尊宿语录》对「得意忘言」之论述散见于多位尊宿之开示,呈现数个面向:

其一,以「到家」喻悟境。文中云:「真实到家之者,得意忘言;伶俜在外之人,随情起解。情解既起,名相是兴;言意两忘,十方咸畅。」 以「到家」喻彻悟之境,悟者已超脱名言,而随情起解、攀缘名相者仍滞于门外。

其二,以问答逼拶学人。当学人问「得句忘言时如何?」时,师家反问「即今得什么句?」,学人云「不是西来,亦非自己」,师便云「吐却着。」 此处强调「忘言」非仅语言姿态,连「所得之句」本身亦须吐却,方能离于言句之执。

其三,以「得鱼忘筌」为喻。文中云:「句不当机,言非展事。承言者丧,滞句者迷。得鱼忘筌,得意忘言。借网求鱼,鱼非网也。」 以网鱼为喻,说明语言文字如渔网之具,执网则失鱼。又云:「佛之与法,是建立化仪。禅道两名,是止啼之说。名不干事,事不干名。依执滞名,于他玄隔。」 进一步强调名相乃施设之方便,执滞名相则与实相隔碍。

其四,以「超今越古」标举其功用。文中云:「若也得意忘言,自然超今越古。」 将「得意忘言」视为超越古今时空、契入先圣心髓之关键。

《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》中,「得意忘言」出现于洞山与初首座之对答。洞山先设问「说佛界道界底,是甚么人」,初首座良久无对,洞山遂云:「佛之与道,俱是名言。」 初首座继问「教道甚么?」,洞山以「得意忘言」四字作答,意谓教法所指向之旨意既已彻悟,便应超脱于语言文字之执。然而初首座听后云:「犹将教意向心头作病在。」洞山遂进一步勘验,问「说佛界道界底病大小?」初首座无对,次日迁化。时人因此称洞山为「问杀首座价」。

不同部类与表述差异

两部文献就「得意忘言」之表述存在以下差异:

一、《古尊宿语录》为语录汇编,「得意忘言」散见于不同尊宿之开示中,常与「言意两忘」「得句忘言」「得鱼忘筌」等语并用,论述较为丰富,且出现「得句忘言」之近似表述,与「得意忘言」可互参。

二、《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》为单一禅师语录,「得意忘言」仅以四字成言直接作为对机之语使用,并未作为独立命题展开长篇阐述,而是嵌入层层转折之机锋对话中。

三、两部文献在「意」之执的问题上呈现不同深度:《古尊宿语录》侧重于破除「言」之执着,以「得意忘言」标举超越言句之境界; 《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》则在「得意忘言」之外更推进一层,初首座提出「犹将教意向心头作病在」,揭示执著于「意」同样为病,呈现出「破名→破意」的双重超越结构。

与相关概念的关系

「得意忘言」与以下概念密切相关:

一、「言意两忘」:《古尊宿语录》将二者并提,「言意两忘,十方咸畅」,意谓言与意皆须透脱。

二、「得句忘言」:《古尊宿语录》出现此语,与「得意忘言」可互参,强调连「所得之句」亦须吐却。

三、「得鱼忘筌」:《古尊宿语录》以二者对举,借《庄子》之喻,说明语言为工具而非目的。

四、「超今越古」:《古尊宿语录》以「得意忘言」为超越古今时空、契入先圣心髓之关键。

五、「佛之与道,俱是名言」:《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》以此作为「得意忘言」之前提,强调佛、道等概念本质上皆属名言施设。

代表性原文引用

1. 《古尊宿语录》:「真实到家之者,得意忘言;伶俜在外之人,随情起解。情解既起,名相是兴;言意两忘,十方咸畅。」

2. 《古尊宿语录》:「即今得什么句?……不是西来,亦非自己。吐却着。」

3. 《古尊宿语录》:「句不当机,言非展事。承言者丧,滞句者迷。得鱼忘筌,得意忘言。借网求鱼,鱼非网也。」

4. 《古尊宿语录》:「若也得意忘言,自然超今越古。」

5. 《瑞州洞山良价禅师语录》:「佛之与道,俱是名言。」初首座问:「教道甚么?」师云:「得意忘言。」

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瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄T1986B · 諸宗部

《瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄》中,「得意忘言」一語出現於洞山與初首座的對答之中,並非作為獨立命題被闡述,而是被嵌入一段層層轉折的機鋒對話裡,用以指點學人超越名言、契入言外之旨。

首先須明此語出現的語境。據原文,洞山先見初首座有語云「佛界道界不思議」,遂設問云:「佛界道界即不問,祇如說佛界道界底,是甚麼人?」此問旨在逼出名言背後的真實主體,而非停留於名相本身。初首座良久無對,洞山便云:「何不速道。」初云:「爭即不得。」洞山又云:「道也未曾道,說甚麼爭即不得。」至此初首座仍無對,洞山隨即點明:「佛之與道,俱是名言。」此句是理解「得意忘言」的關鍵前提——佛、道等概念在本質上皆屬名言施設,而非實有自性。

接著,初首座問:「教道甚麼?」意即教法究竟說了什麼。洞山便以「得意忘言」四字作答。此語承上「佛之與道,俱是名言」而發,意思是:教法所指向的旨意既已徹悟,便應超脫於語言文字之執,不必拘泥於名言本身。

值得注意的是,初首座聽後並未當下契入,反云:「猶將教意向心頭作病在。」此句揭示出另一層次的問題:執著於教義之「意」,與執著於教相之「言」,同樣是心病。洞山遂追問:「說佛界道界底病大小?」初又無對,次日便遷化。由此可見,洞山以「得意忘言」破除學人對名言的執著,卻同時意在警策:連「意」本身亦不可執持,方為究竟之處。時人因此稱洞山為「問殺首座价」。

綜觀此段,「得意忘言」在《瑞州洞山良价禪師語錄》中具有以下特點:一、此語為四字成言,直接作為對機之語使用,並非長篇義理闡述;二、其使用場合與「佛之與道,俱是名言」緊密相連,呈現出「破名→破意」的雙重超越結構;三、此語一出,即引出對「意」之執的新一輪勘驗,可見在本錄所記洞山教學中,「言」與「意」皆須透脫,方為究竟。經中所用術語即為「得意忘言」原四字,未見別譯或異稱。

古尊宿語錄X1315 · 禪宗語錄部

《古尊宿語錄》是一部禪宗語錄彙編,其中對「得意忘言」一詞的論述散見於多位尊宿的開示中,呈現出以下幾個面向:

一、以「到家」喻悟境,標舉「得意忘言」為證悟者之特質。文中云:「真實到家之者,得意忘言;伶俜在外之人,隨情起解。情解既起,名相是興;言意兩忘,十方咸暢。」 此處以「到家」喻徹悟之境,將「得意忘言」與「言意兩忘」並提,意謂真正到家之人已超脫名言之執取,而隨情起解、攀緣名相者,則仍滯於門外。

二、以問答形式逼拶學人,檢驗其是否真正超越言句。當學人問「得句忘言時如何?」時,師家並不正面作答,而是反問「即今得什麼句?」,學人云「不是西來,亦非自己」,師便云「吐却著。」 透過此一問答可知,所謂「忘言」並非僅是語言上的姿態,而是要連「所得之句」本身也一併吐卻,方能離於言句之執。此處也見「得句忘言」一語,與「得意忘言」可互參。

三、以「得魚忘筌」之譬喻闡明言意關係。文中云:「句不當機,言非展事。承言者喪,滯句者迷。得魚忘筌,得意忘言。借網求魚,魚非網也。」 此段將「得意忘言」與「得魚忘筌」對舉,以網魚為喻,說明語言文字如漁網之具,承言滯句則如執網而失魚。又云:「佛之與法,是建立化儀。禪道兩名,是止啼之說。名不干事,事不干名。依執滯名,於他玄隔。」 進一步強調名相乃施設之方便,執滯名相則與實相隔礙。

四、以「超今越古」標舉「得意忘言」之功用。文中云:「若也得意忘言,自然超今越古。」 將「得意忘言」視為超越古今時空、契入先聖心髓的關鍵。

綜合而言,《古尊宿語錄》在闡述「得意忘言」時,往往與「言意兩忘」「得句忘言」「得魚忘筌」等語並用,透過具體問答與譬喻,強調悟境不在言句之上,執著語言文字反成障礙。此一概念在本語錄中,既是對證悟者境界之描述,亦是用以勘驗學人是否真實到家的方法。